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The first thing I need to define is what is a
GENERATION? Normally there are four generations in a century in a
family, each one being measured at 25 years. However, I am going to
choose a NAVAL GENERATION. To do that I am going to take the typical
senior ratings career as being 22 years, and the typical
officers career as being 32 years resulting in an average of 27 years,
choosing to ignore the ratio of men to officers and that the warrant
officers service pulls the ratings 22 year marker a little higher. So
with journalistic licence [and lots of it] a "generation
ago!!!" should be taken as meaning twentyseven
years ago.
Just over a generation ago in 1976,
I was a New Entry Divisional Officer in Kelly Squadron, HMS
Mercury. One of my jobs was to write a short and easy to read
paper on Naval Engagements, suitable for printing in a little booklet to
be given to newly arrived recruits. These recruits had finished their
part 1 training in HMS Raleigh [Torpoint] and were about to start their
part 2 training to become Communicators. It was also designed to
give to the class instructor's who were by and large petty
officers. New entrants got the part coloured yellow and the
instructors got the whole thing, parts yellow and green.
Very few knew just what they had
let themselves in for, which quite amazed me. The majority arrived
treating everything as a new adventure, but one or two of them came with
a great want to leave as soon as they could. They were aware of a
'way-out' known as PVR [Premature Voluntary Release], where, for a small
sum of money, one could return to civilian life with no more ado.
Do you remember PVR? If you
do, you are getting on in years [!] because PVR
finished IN
THE FLEET on the 1st of October
1976, some 28 years ago.
However, despite this cessation,
the name continued but with a suffix added to it, and it became known as
PVR[R], where the [R] referred to RECRUITS. Thus, all recruits,
irrespective of age on joining could either leave the Navy for free, or
for a small amount of money in a given and specific time-frame.
Just in case such naval history is
lost, here is a glimpse of the little booklet. Remember we are talking
about male recruits only.
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DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TYPE OF
ENGAGEMENT IS AND YOUR RIGHTS TO ALTER THAT ENGAGEMENT? |
| JUNIORS
[16 to 17½]
If you joined the Navy BEFORE
you were 17½
You came in on a Long Service and Reserve
engagement for Juniors called an LSR[J]
engagement |
ADULTS
[17½ to 33]
If you joined the Navy AFTER you
were 17½
You came in on a Long Service and Reserve
engagement called an LSR engagement
OR
You came in on a Long Service and Reserve
Notice engagement called an LSR[N] engagement |
| Before
we continue with what you have let yourself in for , first make
sure that you are happy with the definitions of each engagement.
1. LSR[J] A LONG
SERVICE engagement with the Royal Navy and LIABLE to FURTHER
SHORTER SERVICE with the Royal Fleet Reserve for all young
men joining the Operations Branch under the age of 17½.
As you will see, when you reach the age of 18 you get a choice
to alter your engagement.
2. LSR[N] A LONG SERVICE engagement with
the Royal Navy for 9 YEARS from the age of 18 [or
later if you joined the Navy after you were 18] with the LEGAL
RIGHT to give 18 months NOTICE to leave the
Navy. This NOTICE can only be given AFTER
you have completed 18 months service from the age of 18 [or, if
you joined after 18 years of age, 18 months from the date you
joined PLUS 8 months]. You earn less pay on this engagement than
you would were you serving on an LSR engagement because you have
not fully committed yourself to the Navy. |
| Example
One
A man joins the Navy when he is 18¼ years of
age, and chooses an LSR[N] engagement.
Over 18 on joining - date joined 1.4.76
- date he becomes a trained man [date joined plus 8
months] 1.12.76 - date
on which he can hand in his Notice to leave [18 months after he
became a Trained Man] 1.6.78
- date on which he leaves the Royal Navy [18 months later] 1.12.79
[aged 21 and 11 months]. Note. You are liable to 3
years service in the RFR |
Example
Two
A junior joins the Navy when he is 17¼ years
of age, and joins on an LSR[J] engagement. At 18 years of age
[more about that later] he chooses an LSR[N] engagement
Under 18 on joining - date changed from LSR[J]
to LSR[N] [18th birthday] 1.4.76
- date on which he can hand in his Notice to leave the Royal
Navy [18 months from the age of 18] 1.10.77
-date on which he leaves the Royal Navy [18 months later] 1.4.79
[aged 21]. Note. You are liable for 3 years service in the RFR |
| Many
more examples could be given to meet YOUR OWN particulars, but
it can easily be seen that you must come under example one or
two and therefore you can do your own simple sums. |
| 3.
LSR A LONG SERVICE engagement with
the Royal Navy for 9 YEARS from the age of 18 [or
later if you joined the Navy after you were 18] and LIABLE
to a further 3 years service with the Royal Fleet Reserve.
You have NO legal right to give notice. Serving on an LSR
engagement earns you more pay than on an LSR[N] engagement
simply because you have committed yourself more to the Navy. |
Now,
back to our recruit. You recall that if a man joins
between the ages of 16 and 17½ he joins as a junior, and if
between 17½ and 33 [yes, 33] as an adult. Further, we said that
junior's join on LSR[J] engagements and that adult's have the
choice of LSR or LSR[N]. Let us consider the junior
entrant and see how he commits himself to the Navy.
From the day he joins up to attaining the age of 18 he stays on
the LSR[J] engagement, even though at 17½ years of age he
becomes an RO2 and therefore an adult in rate.
Approximately one month BEFORE his 18th birthday, the ship's
office will send for him to sign a form. This form is VERY
IMPORTANT because by completing it he makes a decision which
affects his pay and the number of years he has to stay in the
Navy. Simply, he has a choice of changing from LSR[J] to
LSR[N] or to LSR. When he has made his choice at the age of 18,
the form is kept in the Captain's Office for one month AFTER his
18th birthday in case he wants to change his mind - he therefore
has a good two months to think about this important decision and
to seek advice. IF HE FORGETS THE FORM, IT IS
AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED THAT HE IS OPTING FOR AN LSR ENGAGEMENT.
The adult case is EXACTLY the same for those
adults joining over the age of 17½ but under the age of
18.
For those adults joining over the age of 18
years, they remain on the engagement for which they originally
opted for, and no paper-work is required.
So far so good. Now we have ALL
Operations Branch personnel at the age of 18 and over serving
either on LSR or LSR[N] engagements until they reach the age of
27 years or over, when they have yet another option open to them
- more about that in a minute. |
| Circumstance often
change and people are wrongly advised, so obviously there must
be some flexibility built into the system |
| CHANGES
OF ENGAGEMENT |
| Changing from
LSR[N] to LSR |
This can be done
at any time. You LOSE your legal right to give 18 months notice
BUT you do get FULL COMMITTAL PAY from the day the Commanding
Officer approves your request to change engagements. As a
carrot, if you transfer between 18 months and 4½ years from the
age of 18 or date you became a trained man if joining after the
age of 18 [namely between 20½ and 23½ in example one above,
and between 19½ and 22½ in example two above] you will receive
a lump sum in your hand of approximately £130-00 [September
1976 figure] which is the equivalent to 9 months back full
committal pay.
You will also receive committal pay if you complete 7½ years on
an LSR[N] engagement - 25½ years for a man joining before aged
18. |
| Changing from LSR
to LSR[N] |
This can only be
done AFTER completing 3 years service from the age of 18 or from
the age of becoming a trained man if joining after 18 [date
joined plus 8 months].
The rules are simple for RO1's and RO2's but become complex if
you want the professional courses which help you to become a
Leading Radio Operator or a Radio Supervisor. When you
reach this stage in your career - promotion that is - seek
further advice. The Navy guarantees your right of change
but may delay it by up to 6 months if it is in the Navy's
interest. |
| Can
you change your mind once again?
Believe it or not, the answer is YES - as follows. |
| REPEATED
TRANSFERS |
| Changing from LSR
to LSR[N] then BACK to LSR |
Can be done at
any time but you DO NOT get a COMMITTAL BONUS - of course! |
Changing from
LSR[N] to LSR the BACK to LSR[N]
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You can do this
AFTER you have served 9 months of your LSR engagement |
| What
happens when I leave the Navy?
If you hand in your notice when serving on an LSR[N]
engagement you simply leave the Navy when the time comes.
If you opt for the LSR engagement [namely you leave the service
on your 27th birthday or later if you joined after 18] you are
ENTITLED to 28 days paid leave plus a civilian resettlement
training course.
If you opt for the LSR[N] engagement and complete 5 adult years
of service [5 years from 18] you are ENTITLED to 28 days paid
leave and a civilian resettlement training course. |
| Can
I continue in the Navy after having attained the age of 27?
Yes, right up to the age of 50 if you become an officer and
45 if you become a Fleet Chief Petty Officer. For Chief
Petty Officer's and Petty Officer's the present retiring age is
usually 40.
The rules are complex and inappropriate in this booklet.
However, it is of interest to you to know that you always retain
your RIGHT to give 18 months notice. |
| How
much is career Committal Pay?
Example is for the rate of RO2
At the time of printing [September 1976] UNCOMMITTED LSR[N] =
£4.41 per day, after deductions
COMMITTED LSR = £5.16 per day after deductions
Therefore, after deductions, it is £0.75 a day. |
| Premature
Voluntary Release [PVR] finishes on the 1st October 1976.
How does this affect me as a New Entry?
It doesn't. PVR has finished in the Fleet, but PVR for new
recruits still holds good under the old existing rules, and is
now known as PVR[R] - Premature Voluntary Release [Recruits]. To
refresh your memory the following rules apply.
If you joined before you were 17½. You can leave the
Navy ANYTIME during your first 6 months and it is FREE.
After 14 days from seeing K1, you can leave.
If you joined over 17½ but under 17¾. You can
leave the Navy ANYTIME during your first 6 months, but it will
cost you £20.00. After 14 days from seeing K1 you can
leave.
If you joined over 17¾ but under 18. You can leave
the Navy ANYTIME BEFORE you reach the age of 18¼. It will cost
you £20.00 and you leave the Navy 14 days after having seen K1.
If you joined over the age of 18. You can leave
the Navy ANYTIME during your first 3 months and it will cost you
£20.00. You will leave the Navy 14 days after having seen
K1.
WHEN THESE TIMES HAVE EXPIRED, YOU STAY IN THE NAVY
UNTIL YOU ARE AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE.
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