ROYAL NAVAL QUIZ TWO - October 2019

Question 1 What naval unit in commission during WW2  had an Indian elephant on its crest ?
Question 2 James Bond! According to reliable witnesses, Ian Fleming named ‘M’ in his books & used in all the James Bond films,  after my name sake of  GODFREY, but remembering that Godfrey is nearly always used as a surname, except when used as both, a Christian name and a surname for the same person as in this case [click on thumbnail]
  
or
as a surname only i.e. Godfrey, associated with an unprecedented calamity. Godfrey was an officer in the Royal Navy, an admiral, appointed to command an Allied Navy during WW2 which for him ended in disaster with a mutiny involving 20,000 sailors which spread through the length and breadth of the whole country of the
  Allied Navy involving literally millions. Fleming served under him when Godfrey was the Head of Naval Security at the Admiralty. He was an expert in navigation. What was his name, his substantive rank and which allied navy was it?
Question 3 In WW2 a commodore 1st class shared exactly the same uniform as that also worn by another RN officer, exception when worn [and relatively infrequently] the shoulder boards were different. What rank  was the other officer?
Question 4 What submarine flotilla was stationed in an area approximately just over 1 mile off the NW tip of the UK’s Holy Isle?  Give its name. It was quite famous in a novel way,  name-wise?
Question 5 What does the naval acronym STUFT mean ? It is famous involving some super big  ships?
Question 6 In 1947, Princess Elizabeth’s wedding dress was marveled at but also envied because other brides [and women in general] could not acquire the fine materials for their own use because they didn’t have the money or clothing coupons, all part of WW2 rationing. For the men of the army and specifically the 1948 Trooping The Colour, first have a look at this press cutting which mentions two things, namely that this years ceremony was  cancelled and that there was a lack of guardsmen uniforms who would have paraded their color had it not been cancelled.

The answer to why a shortage of army uniforms, is listed in this file https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3674861
So a multi choice question.

1. On the dress rehearsal day, major downpours had drenched the best uniform and bear skins?
2. That as their best tunic uniform had not been worn since war broke out, the soldiers had all lost weight in combat and their suits no longer fitted them and had to be altered?
3.  That their best tunic uniforms had been damaged in a fire in  their
UK barrack block in November 1947 and there wasn't enough material to repair them all because of rationing requiring money and coupons?
Question 7 In quite recent times a man called RAJENDRASEN OURUSRUM created a precedent in the Naval Services. What service was it and why was it a precedent?
Question 8 After the American War of Independence [1775-1783] which kicked the British out of America at that time with only about 30 States, which US City, high up on the US-Canadian border, still had its city Flag flying which continued its  connection to the British Royal Family [George III] until 1796?
Question 9

Ships crests are badges of British warships proudly displayed in prominent positions on the vessel superstructure.
  Two questions on this subject:-
a. which type of naval asset might have worn this complementary naval crest symbol, indicative of a good and infinitely better life to come, and can  you name one - we are talking about circa the 1902's by the way?



and
b. In 1953 HMS Surprise acquired a second crest to add to its original crest.  What was it and why?

Question 10 The Victorian Cross is made of Bronze said to be produced from melted down Russian guns captured during the Crimean War in the mid 19th century. Was this source of bronze a ‘bottomless pit’ so to speak, and if not where did the bronze come from for VC’s awarded from 1914 [WW1] onwards?
Question 11 On VE Day in May 1945 as all the Allies went wild with singing, dancing, and much happy and joyous merriment on the street of their respective cities, ports and towns, a city of one of those Allies who had perhaps more than most protected our convoys which fed and sustained us in the UK, witnessed a major and very nasty riot, where untold thousands of servicemen, mainly naval and mercantile sailors, looted the city on account of their type of perverse merriment which was anything but happy and joyous. Which city was it?
Question 12 The “drunken sailor” is a step in a dance. What is the name of the still fashionable  dance ?
Question 13

 The date was the 27th January 1926  and the ship is a brand new type of destroyer called HMS Amazon [D39], built to incorporate all the lessons learned from WW1 at Thornycroft’s Yard Southampton.  Early on this day the wife of a very famous admiral of the fleet, prominent in WW1, went to Southampton to launch the vessel BUT after 20 minutes of pulling and pushing the bottle of champers lever which did break after hitting the ship but no affect on the stubborn heap of steel, received her bouquet of flowers, said her goodbyes and went home in a huff leaving the vessel high and dry, mission incomplete and task unfinished,  So here I provide four answers for you to chose from. Was the ship either:-

 

1.      inadvertently  welded to the slip way?

2.      that a full SOVEREIGN  couldn't be found to lend weight and a bigger knock on the bow to set the ship sliding?

3.      the ship was frozen solid to the slipway  and wouldn’t move even with a bottle crashing on its bow?

4.     the propellers fell off and jammed under the ship preventing its slipping motion gathering momentum?

5.   In terms of wine and similar liquids, what is a Sovereign?

 

Please DONT CHEAT, BUT GUESS or RESEARCH the answer to Questions 1 to 4  first above,  and only then open this site

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/if-at-first-you-dont-succeed-1/query/hms+amazon+launch+fails and then choose  FULL VIEW for better picture to watch the soundless movie, made that way on purpose to stop you hearing the cursings of the admiral's wife for bloody wasting her time, ESPECIALLY when her daddy owned a business selling car engine liquids - I think its called Halford or something like that!?

 

Can you name half a dozen titles reflecting RN naval sayings  and events starting with the first three letters of the alphabet? That’s 18 answers in all. You can only use the word you choose once, so, for example [although outside the requested 1st three letters of the alphabet] if you were to use the words ‘make and mend’ you wouldn’t  be allowed to use ‘make and mend with leave’ etc, or separately as two of the six choices,  ‘make’ and ‘mend’. Rank or Rate titles are not acceptable i.e., Able Seaman, CPO, Captain, Commodore etc.

 Your answer sheet therefore would look like this below. There are many choices to chose from so answer sheets could be correct but very different from others!

Letter A [Words 1 to 6]
Letter B [Words 1 to 6]
Letter C [Words 1 to 6] e.g CHART OR CHART TABLE but not both

Question 15 Commander Sir Francis Beaufort RN,  developed his revolutionary wind scale while commanding which warship in 1806 ?  Where on the globe specifically were the winds measured used to compile the Beaufort Scale?
Question 16  In 1947, on the day before the marriage of Princess Elizabeth to Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark,  he  was known officially by  [this name?] + The Duke of Edinburgh,  and before nightfall on that day, he dropped that name and assumed the names of Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh [all of course using the prefix HRH]. What was the name he dropped?
Question 17 n 1953, the year I joined the navy, there was not a hope in hell, that we knew about, to allow being bought-out of the navy as unhappy  boy’s!  In truth, in that very year, a discharge by purchase system was rolled out but kept hush hush in HMS Ganges and no doubt elsewhere. What many of us young boys had a ‘hope for’ back then, sat side by side with the country’s wish for a ‘hope not’ which many years later would elevate the navy into a central role in history which they had experienced  a year earlier in 1952. What was the occasion for the nationalhope not’?
Question 18

For the purpose of this question the navy has two types of ships, a FLAG SHIP and a PRIVATE SHIP.  The former wears a Flag of an admiral or a union jack if an admiral of the fleet, or a Pennant if a commodore.  What does the {PRIVATE SHIP] shed from aloft when it becomes a FLAG SHIP?  

Question 19 In question 18 above, when a group of ships are operating together in a squadron, how is the senior ship [the leader]  distinguished from the others and how is the half leader, subordinate to the leader, distinguished ?
Question 20  British warships fly white ensigns  when in commission BUT in harbour or shore establishments, at sunset the white ensign is lowered for the nominally dark hours and raised again for the light hours called the 'Colours' ceremony. However in some parts of the world it gets light at 4-5 am, but the ensign remains lowered until 8am, 9am in UK winter months, so in this case, dark and light are very loose definitions. What famous warship has a “raised [or spread] white ensign continuously” which has an annual routine change,  but which is not in commission?  
Question 21 Why was the Battle of  Navarino of special significance to the Royal Navy?
Question 22 The triple expansion steam engine  allowed a captain of a ship to do what, specifically? 
Question 23  Rear Admiral V.A.C. CRUTCHLEY VC, DSC,  [1943-44]  was unique. Why?
Question 24 In WW2 terms, what is the basic difference between a war medal and a war star e.g. the African Star?
Question 25 Why is a British warship with a full ship’s company aboard, fully fuelled and provisioned, armed and with no defects, not obviously ready for operational duty, because one aspect of naval life is clearly missing? The answer lies wholly in the definition of being provisioned/manned and with WHAT?
Question 26 If you were quids-in, ten quid’s that is,  with four bars and three half bars short, and a pint ashore was to cost three  shillings [1956 prices] and you bought five pints,  how much money did you have left when returning back on board?
Question 27 In WW2 Where and What was “SIGNAL CITY” ?
Question 28

German submarines of WW2 [but also in WW1]  were of many types, but they were also known by more than one sea-going vessels name, the best known being simply a U-Boat. There were two other types, well documented, which were in the second phase of German submarine warfare after Admiral  Donitz had become the German navy C-in-C when Admiral Raeder’s resigned  on 30th January  1943.   Was the type IXD Boats better known as a U-*******  which was a very large submarine?  Another type was the ****-Boat which concentrated on shooting at enemy aircraft but only managed to shoot down two. The others were the diesel oil fuelling Boats U-Tankers, and the Stores Transporters U-Transports.  Mine layers were ordinary U-Boats which could be deployed on two basic tasks. What are the types show by my asterisks ?

Question 29

 In WW2, a now head of state, and the only one left alive today in 2019, served in the UK armed forces as the equivalent army rank of second lieutenant.  There was no equivalent rank for an army second lieutenant in the navy list, but for pragmatic and courtesy reasons it was above a midshipman but below a sub lieutenant.  Subsequent Question One -  did OR’s [other ranks] salute this officer, and Subsequent Question Two, what was the title of this officer. Subsequent Question Three asks - What was the name of this officer ?

Question 30

For naval nautical navigational position assessment it was common to do a ‘Sun run Mer’.  This was in addition to dawn and dusk star-shoots to acquire a ‘fix’ based on celestial data. What instrument was used for these purposes. At what time of the day was a 'Sun run Mer' taken  using what object/tool. Note - a chronometer was required but that is not part of your answer.

Question 31 In old money [as the saying goes] meaning old navy in this case, what would a four-stripe captain be called when in command of vessel.  We are looking for a name to act as a prefix to the word Captain?
Question 32

Navy Lists {?} sometimes confused with the printed annual/biannual  book called the  “Navy List”, at one time a truly comprehensive book showing every officer [active, retired, deceased and reserve] plus ships and their officer complements plus much else , but now renamed and a humble little book by comparison called a  “Naval Directory”. It had three lists, namely GL, SL and SD officers.  Those initials represented General List, Supplementary List and Special Duties List. The GL and SD List were introduced in 1956 during the Suez War with Egypt:  the SL List [when the navy required more officer] was extant from 1950 until 1990’s. SD officers whose pre promotion branch was retained in their title e.g. a Lieutenant [SD][C] was a rating communicator, could by merit transfer to the GL List but very few ever did, supplanted the Branch Officer system where a senior Branch Officer, wearing a single  ½” stripe was known as a SCCO = Senior Commissioned Communications Officer and before that a CCO = Commissioned Communications Offucer with a ¼" stripe. Before that time, they were  Warrant officer Telegraphist or a  Signal Bosun if a bunting. Those on the SL list were recruited for a 10 year period, with the option on merit of transferring to a 16 year pensionable career of even longer service, and could also, on merit transfer to the GL List, but very few ever did. Typical of an SL officers branch was as a helicopter pilot, but there were other branches open to them, all except for the S&S [Supply and Secretarial] Branch now called the Logistics Branch. Also 1956 saw the end of colour coding bands for officers sewn between the stripes of their rank, all except for medical doctors and dentists. In 1998 all lists were abandoned and all officers serve  as a band of brothers on one list with equal opportunities.

 So, after a long and protracted introduction, a question.  What advantages were there in having one’s name on the GL List that wasn’t available to those on SL and SD Lists, and as such, was much coveted?

Question 33

WW2. If you were a civilian  au fait with working or taking leisure on the sea, irrespective of the so called social standing e.g. yacht owners, were usually gentlemen but could also be a bricklayer with dosh to splash and relevant expertise, you could apply to serve as a reservist. Which of the naval reserves [answer with initials i.e. RNR etc] would you have applied to join?

Question 34

Naval good conduct badges [GCB’S]

There has been three distinct awards of GCB’S over the years, always to a maximum of  three.

The current period started in 1950 which awarded them @ 4,8 and 12 years of service from the age of 18 or from when joined if over 18.

Subsequent question ONE.  What was the frequency of the first award period from 1849 and

Subsequent question TWO. The second period which commenced in  1860 until  1950?

Question 35

Colour of ratings badges!

For male ratings they wore blue badges [on white backgrounds] on white uniforms/working blue shirts of No8 AWD [Action Working Dress] and overalls, red badges on working/duty blue serge suits [No 2 and 3’s] and gold badges on best ceremonial/going ashore on liberty suits, No 1’s: the serge or better quality blue suits were dry cleaned.

 How did this differ for female ratings serving in the WRNS = Woman’s Royal Naval Service?

Question 36 See also Question 49 which deals with punishments for 1st class boys. From 1879 onwards 2nd class boys were punished with the cane only i.e. not with a birch. On what part of the body?
Question 37

Why will, in time to come,  KING WILLIAM V be likened to his GGG grandfather KING EDWARD VII ?

Note - his GG grandfather the uncrowned and abdicated would-be King EDWARD VIII is missing for obvious reasons.

Question 38

Both father and son, Prince Philip and Prince Charles are admirals of the fleet, but there is a difference between their ranks.  What is it?

Question 39

Lord Nelson suffered from two ailments and one inconvenience over the course of his short life,  dying at the age of 47 in battle.

One was gout a very painful disease usually of the feet, and the other was the aches and mild pain in the end of the stub of his amputate arm. In the period post his 35th birthday  he hardly ever got more than two hours sleep and usually arose at day break!

He managed to cure himself of gout  - HOW?

He put the aches and pains in his stub to good use – WHAT WAS IT ?

Although not a stated fact, but many of us may experience  the lack of a good nights sleep: WHAT WAS  the likely inconvenience that this caused to Nelson?

Lord Nelson never wore boots after 1797, when the majority of naval officers chose this footwear!

Why? Two basic reasons

Question 40

HMS GANGES had seven internationally recognised virtues whereas all other naval establishment had just four virtues. What virtues did Ganges have that others didn’t?  If you are not au fait with HMS Ganges and therefore cannot answer this question try answering question 41 in lieu.  YOU CAN ONLY SUBMIT AN ANSWER for either question 40 or 41 but NOT BOTH. To give you a clue, one of the virtues is,  "I **** that I am not duty on Christmas Day". 

Question 41

The famous Royal Marines of modern times [20th century style] when embarked in RN sea going warships, first off as the RMA [Royal Marine Artillery]  manning the big guns of battleships on ‘X’ turret aft, on the quarterdeck, with two exceptions, those being the Nelson class battleships [Rodney and Nelson] whose guns [3 turrets each of 3 16” guns, 9 in all] were all for’ard on the very long focsle, in which case they manned the ‘C’ turret just below the bridge, and subsequently the RMLI [Royal Marines Light Infantry] who acted as boarding party and raiding party on smaller vessel. The question is,  the senior member of the on board marines was called the  OCRM, [Officer Commanding Royal Marines] but what was his equivalent RN rank once a part of the ships complement?

Question 42

RUM. Rum was liberally issued to all adults aboard, right up to post WW1. Officers, warrant officers CPO’s and 1st class PO’s got neat rum whilst 2nd class PO’s and eligible junior rates got Grog.

 Question One. What was GROG in this period – was it 1&1, 2&1, 3&1, 4&1 or 5&1 ?

First the commissioned officers lost theirs followed by warrant officer, and for all others the age for issue was extended in 1909.

Question Two.  When did officers lose their issue, warrant officers lose theirs. and what was the age of drawing one's tot after 1909?
Question 43

Rum had a cash value and each tot issued gratuitously was “chalked up”.  It was paid for by the Admiralty and not by those who drank it; it was issued gratuitously to the ships/establishments.  If say the cost to the navy by a naval ships chandler was 1 shilling a standard tot measure, and each day on board 200  tots of neat rum were issued discounting whether it was neat or became grog, the cost to the pusser was 200 x 1 shilling =   £10.0.0d there being 20 shilling in a  GBP.  If say, there were 25 aboard under stoppage for punishment or medical reasons,  the chalk-up was reduced by £1.5.0d per day, which the Pusser didn’t  spend on each of those day in the 'spirit room', let’s say for a week = £8.15.0d.  What happened to the unspent money, which WAS SPENT in the ship for other purposes?

Question 44

Britain had two navies in the 19th century [as indeed at other times too] the navy, a relatively small navy, and a quite huge mercantile marine [merchant navy] made that way by the many successes of the British Industrial Revolution importing world wide raw materials and  exporting finished goods to world markets. The navy often got their crew shortages courtesy of the PRESS GANG AGENCY. However, our merchant ship crew shortages were huge by comparison and required the services of a world wide agency system who acquired sailors in the same manner applied by the Press Gangs, and offered them to masters of merchant vessels.  What was this  infamous agency called?.

Question 45

READ THIS CAREFULLY and ON THE LINES and NOT BETWEEN THEM – as the saying goes when referring to a possible hidden meaning!

Ranks were denoted by stripes on RN officers sleeves, but then so too  were Career Milestones which in every way looked like the aforementioned stripes of ranks.  Thus,  an officer wearing two and a half stripes in the period late 19th century to early 20th century,  carried a Career Milestone, achieved between his substantive ranks of  lieutenant and commander RN, which after  eight years as a lieutenant he automatically became known as "lieutenant over 8" denoting a milestone in his career with but a minute pay rise  and few extra perks  etc. In 1914 that Milestone changed to a RANK with a good pay rise  and perks.  What was the Rank called?

Question 46

Imagine, a Naval vessel flying the White Ensign close up on a mast, and immediately below it on the same pole, also a foreign naval Ensign.  Click on thumbnail. What does this indicate? - two answers required really amounting to the same thing.



Ships shown in this short video of 1918 german ships at scapa flow.wmv  were neither of these answers above! They are still wearing their Imperial German Navy Ensigns whose proper name was the 'Kaiserliche Marine' meaning German Royal Navy.
Question 47

On a warship, Flag or private ship, what flags/pennants are not lowered or removed at the ceremony of Sunset?

Question 48

Which of these words and associated meaning is currently denied us because of the dour incessant Brexit deliberations.  Is it gamble or gambol ?

Question 49

In 1879 ALL BOYS of the first class rate and irrespective of where serving or in what stage of  their training schedule, could and were given corporal punishments. The punishment tool was either the birch or the cane over the breech [trousers].  The amounts of tool strokes differed greatly with maximums set at 12 or 24 depending upon the tool used.  Given that 24 strokes is the greater of the two punishments and is applicable to one of those tools only [the other tool allows a maximum of 12 stokes only] , and that you had been awarded a maximum punishment, which tool would you select for yourself to be punished by?  Answers -  saying none will be disqualified.

Question 50

The significance of a STAR upon a ratings uniform denotes a higher than basic level of branch expertise or of education standard.  Ganges boys for example, when adjudged as academically above average,  were called Advance Class [AC] boys and wore a star on their sleeve. Branch badges had stars above or above and below their core branch badge and worn on the right sleeves of ratings up to and including the petty office rates. CPO’s  wore their branch badges [in some branches only]  on their jacket lapels on both sides. Those CPO’s who didn’t were artificers and mechanicians.  So question. What did the design of the ratings star represent?

·           That's your lot!  If you want to submit your answers, try emailing me on jeff@godfreydykes.info where in slow time I will confirm your answers [or otherwise]  and supply you with  the correct answers to each question [in the case of Question 14 my sample answer, which will differ from yours but yours could be just as acceptable if you followed the rules?.  Good sailing.  Bye the way did you try my 'Royal Naval Quiz', in effect my first Quiz?